Grim Dawn: Duncan or Angrim - Gamer Of Passion (2024)

Grim Dawn: Duncan or Angrim

Grim Dawn: Duncan or Angrim - Gamer Of Passion (1)

If you have just started playing Grim Dawn and are currently going through the first Act, moving through the Burrwitch Outskirts, chances are you will eventually have to decide between Duncan or Angrim.

If the fear of picking the wrong choice induces mild anxiety to you, as it does to me, fear no more and read on. I will explain the advantages of each smith and give you tips on deciding as well as a general answer.

Duncan

Grim Dawn: Duncan or Angrim - Gamer Of Passion (2)

Of the two, you will meet Duncan in the Burrwitch Outskirts first who will also tell you about Angrim. Talking to him will initiate the quest “Tale Of Two Blacksmiths” as Duncan tells you that his Master Angrim left the camp and took the forging hammer Malleum Menhir with him. Duncan will ask you to retrieve this hammer as it is required for him to make proper gear.

Duncan’s main forging skills are of the Arcane nature. He uses Arcane Forging to empower the crafted gear with one of the following stats:

  • Increases Energy Regeneration by8-16%
  • +4-12Defensive Ability
  • +2-4%Physique

Additionally, you will be able to craft a few low-level Rare pieces:

  • Adept’s Bladed Mace
  • Glyphed Archive
  • Double-Barrel Pistol
  • Occult Horn

As the description already suggests, Arcane forging means that Duncan is more of a caster-friendly smith and as such, is more relevant for these types of builds.

Angrim

As mentioned above, Angrim is the Master who has left to go towards the Burrwitch Outskirts and is seeking the Black Legion to become their armorer. He has the hammer that Duncan seeks and once you find him, you can decide on whether you take the hammer to bring it back to Duncan and thus have him as your smith in Devil’s Crossing, or if you choose Angrim instead.

You can either convince him to hand you the hammer peacefully or kill him for it depending on the dialogue options you pick.

Angrim’s main forging skill is the Practiced Skill. His crafted items have one of the following boons:

  • 3-7%Pierce Resistance
  • Increases Armor by2-4%
  • +2-4%Physique

Additionally, he will have the following low-level Rare items as crafting options

  • Honed Longsword
  • Brutal Great Axe
  • Rotating Rifle
  • Battle Shield

Angrim is the kind of smith that works best with physical builds like the Blitz Warlord Build. Additionally, he offers Pierce resistance which is quite useful in lategame because there are multiple situations where you might miss that last little bit on Pierce resistance. There probably aren’t a ton of situations where you would heavily rely on the crafted rares, but they can be an added bonus for your build if its physical.

Angrim or Duncan?

The short answer is: Pick Duncan if you lean towards a caster and pick Angrim if your build is more physical.

The long answer is a little bit more difficult but boils down to the choice actually not really mattering. You see, the way Grim Dawn works is that once you beat the whole story, you can start out at the beginning again, only in a higher difficulty (called Elite). This means you can take any choice you made before and just choose the different path this time. You can also switch between Norma, Elite and Ultimate difficulty effectively giving you access to both smiths if you really want to.

One more point, which probably might even weigh heavier is the fact that these two smiths are not the only smiths in the world of Grim Dawn and you will meet plenty of other blacksmiths who will give you other kinds of bonuses that often times are more impactful than the ones of Angrim or Duncan.

The XP choice

One other factor that you might consider whenever having to decide between Angrim and Duncan is if you favor a medium XP bonus over any other later smithing questions.

Angrim XP Duncan XP
Normal350800
Elite2200022000
Ultimate5500055000

Once you finish the quest “Tale of Two Blacksmiths” you get a different amount of XP depending on who you side with on normal difficulty. While the amount is not gigantic, it can have a little bit of an impact and definitely be a deciding factor particularly if you do not need the blacksmith services in the near future. So if XP is all you care about, pick Duncan for the 450 XP bonus.

Conclusion

So while it does not actually matter in the end, it is good to know why exactly this is the case and how you can still derive some sort of value from choosing either Angrim or Duncan. Of course, there is also the RP element that is completely subjective and thus was not discussed in this guide. Ultimately, I urge you to simply try out both choices (which is applicable to all Grim Dawn quest choices) and simply see the difference for yourself, either with a new character or once you reach Elite difficulty.

Grim Dawn: Duncan or Angrim - Gamer Of Passion (2024)

FAQs

Grim Dawn: Duncan or Angrim - Gamer Of Passion? ›

Both Angrim and Duncan are highly talented blacksmiths, though while Duncan is very capable of weaving magical properties into forged equipment, Angrim prefers to make weapons and armor excelling in raw strength.

Does it matter which blacksmith you choose Grim Dawn? ›

Each can apply different bonus stats to the equipment he crafts, and also offer differing exclusive low-level Rare items for crafting. This makes the choice meaningful and relevant to the build and class of the player; generally speaking, Angrim caters to melee and ranged characters, while Duncan benefits casters.

Where is Duncan Grim Dawn? ›

Duncan is eagerly awaiting its delivery at the refugee camp near the riftgate in the Burrwitch Outskirts. Objectives: Collect Malleum Menhir from Angrim. Deliver Malleum Menhir to Duncan at the refugee camp.

Why Grim Dawn is good? ›

PC User Reviews. GrimDawn is an exceptional game and the best of its kind as it surpasses Diablo 4 and Path of Exile in one way or another. Tons of content, tons of customization, really unique builds for your character. Beautiful graphics and sound, incredible boss fights etc.

Where is Angrim Grim Dawn? ›

Angrim is a blacksmith located in the Burrwitch Outskirts. He left the camp of his apprentice Duncan to seek out the Black Legion and become their armorer.

What is the best blacksmith in Grim Dawn? ›

Angrim is a master blacksmith and an expert in creating martial weapons and armor. He revels in the creation of the sharpest swords and the toughest plate. Adventurers who prefer to go into battle armed to the teeth will find Angrim to be an invaluable resource.

Should I choose the blacksmith or the messenger? ›

In the short term, and on the way to getting the good ending to this part of the DLC, the Messenger is a greater threat to the rebellion. However, killing the Blacksmith will reveal some interesting information about the Goddess Aphrodite.

What is the difference between Angrim and Duncan? ›

Both Angrim and Duncan are highly talented blacksmiths, though while Duncan is very capable of weaving magical properties into forged equipment, Angrim prefers to make weapons and armor excelling in raw strength.

Where is Duncan killed? ›

In Macbeth, Duncan is killed at Macbeth's castle Inverness. While Duncan's visit offers Macbeth and Lady Macbeth the opportunity to carry out the murder that will make Macbeth king, the visit also torments Macbeth as he considers his role as Duncan's kinsman and host, weighing his duty against his ambition.

Where is Duncan to spend the night? ›

Answer and Explanation: King Duncan visits Lord Macbeth's home and spends the night there, as was customary at the time. Kings would routinely travel to the lands of their subjects to make sure everything was in order and to reward the loyalty of their followers.

Is Grim Dawn fun singleplayer? ›

It's pretty much a single player game. The story is well fleshed out and the combat depth and level up systems are pretty deep. There's heaps of char combos for replayability and the reddit community is pretty helpful.

Do enemies scale Grim Dawn? ›

Enemies have always scaled in the game; just slightly differently in the latest patch probably because of the change to make it possible for people to get up to L100 in Normal or Elite difficulties.

How many hours does it take to beat Grim Dawn? ›

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Single-PlayerPolledAverage
Main Story18022h
Main + Extras30354h 19m
Completionist24216h 22m
All PlayStyles50750h 31m

Who is Empyrion Grim Dawn? ›

Empyrion, the greatest of the gods, isn't missing. He was betrayed, butchered, and locked in the dark void where his once brilliant form was corrupted and twisted into the terror that is now known only as "Ch'thon". That's why Ch'thon's original name is supposedly "forgotten".

How do I get to Mourndale Grim Dawn? ›

how do i get to mourndale ? You have to get the item at Coven's Refuge to open the portal at the Altar of Rattosh. Fight your way through there, rescue Ulgrim and eventually you'll come out at Mournedale.

Where are Grim Dawn characters saved? ›

Character saves go in C:\Users\Username\Documents\My Games\Grim Dawn\save\main assuming you have no mods. Hardcore characters go in a different folder.

Should I give the blacksmith my divine ember? ›

Yes you should, that's how you get Divine weapons. I don't know why you wouldn't want to give the embers over, I don't think there's anything else you can really do with them. You should give an ember to any blacksmith who asks for it.

Do choices matter in Grim Dawn? ›

The choice affects the events of the Forgotten Gods expansion slightly.

Should I use shield or offhand Grim Dawn? ›

Off-hand or Focus items are implements intended for spellcasters. They occupy the left-hand "shield" gear slot on a character, however unlike shields they provide no defenses.

How does the blacksmith work in Grim Dawn? ›

Once the Blacksmith is unlocked, Blueprints and Recipes can be used to craft new items. The Blacksmith also has a repertoire of items he can craft immediately, without the need for Recipes or Blueprints. This includes Relics, difficult to acquire Components, and random weapons, armor and accessories.

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